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Regan Rotineque Rl'yeh Interstellar Ltd. Mildly Sober 187	Posted - 2014.01.16 07:52:00 - [1] - Quote The logic, or lack of logic on this one astounds me. CCP wants to have more people in null.....but now creates something that does not make it even remotely fun. Now we have to online some stupid module that nobody asked for....engage in ratting.....the spend time after ratting to take tags....the undeploy said module. You have added unneeded worthless gameplay.....it does not add to the enjoyment of the game ... There is no fun in using this...it does not correct a wrong, or fix a bug, or add value to eve in the slightest. You want to nerf null ratting payouts... Nerf the payout....don't add some piece of garbage that gives a bunch of messages and adds nothing to the game. Stop spending time on these kinds of new features and start spending some time on fixing some of the long standing issues that your long term playerbase have been asking for....for years....remember POS's?? We have not forgotten. Nor have we forgotten the Incarna debacle. We were promised that you would be working on FIS.....I don't see that even remotely in this ESS thing. I see another bad attempt at new features run amok. This does not create fun CCP....it's just a bad idea...plain and simple.
Regan Rotineque Rl'yeh Interstellar Ltd. Mildly Sober 193	Posted - 2014.01.20 01:02:00 - [2] - Quote To ensure i was not speaking out of my ass in my earlier post in this thread..... I logged into SiSi and tried said module out My previous post stands.....this is junk....you want to nerf bounties then please just do that shave the 5% off because that is what this module is going to do anyway. And we wont have another piece of trash floating about EvE. I must have missed where not only is your isk inside this thing - but you also have to go through a BUBBLE to get to it. I can see all the carriers and ratting ships lined up...going into a warp disruption bubble to get at their bounties.....yup we are all completely insane. So....now i have to launch one of these (overpriced) modules.....then do what i would normally do....then change ships to go get said isk because taking my ratting ship inside a disruption bubble is the equivalent of stabbing myself in the eye with a knitting needle. If i am really quite daft i `take all` and end up with some fun tags which I then have to find a way to get to high sec to trade in. YaaaaY more fun game-play because hauling stuff around EvE is one of the best things in the game. Not to mention CCP do you really want a bunch of bitter angry null bears headed to high sec to turn in their tags? Cause last time I checked ganking freighters and shooting miners was supposed to be 'fun'.....perhaps this might not be a bad idea afterall because customer retention is such a high priority.... Yup exciting gameplay.....makes me want to keep paying for my accounts. If you dont believe me.....got and try it out on SiSi - it is unbelievably not fun and I cannot believe that CCP will spend anymore time on developing this "feature". All this module does is create problems in corps and alliances where some idiot will drop one and all hell will break loose. I don't mean to use so much sarcasm in a post or be unfair or disrespectful. I still love my EvE....but these kinds of things make me question it. That is my 2 cents....i have a feeling that it won't matter much since I have not seen a Dev post in quite some time. And that generally means you are circling the wagons to defend your actions....something you would never have to do if you said "Hey we have this idea - this is it....and then before having spent a bunch of time on it - heard from the player base in advance." I can assure you that when N3, PL, Goons et al agree on something you have touched a nerve.
Regan Rotineque Rl'yeh Interstellar Ltd. Mildly Sober 200	Posted - 2014.01.21 18:54:00 - [3] - Quote It is still overly complicated and adds zero to the overall gameplay. Now you are adding additional mechanics to this and making it even more complex. Adding more code to a broken mechanic does not make it better. I still say this should be shelved and other game mechanics in dire need of coding and reworking be worked on.
Regan Rotineque Rl'yeh Interstellar Ltd. Mildly Sober 208	Posted - 2014.01.23 16:43:00 - [4] - Quote Andrea Keuvo wrote: Jori McKie wrote: So i have to explain in detail how this works? Alliance B has 20 ratting/farming/ano systems whatever you call it where they kill NPCs for bounty. Alliance A has a fleet ready may it via cyno or Blops, whatever Alliance A wants to harass farming in the prime time of Alliance B for lets say 2h as strategic goal and with some luck getting a fight. What does Alliance A do now without an ESS, put up 20 cloak alts in local, see whats going on. If you are smart enough who the **** cares about a cloak alt, sure your farming may be interrupted from time to time but the point is you can not shut down farming at all. Now the ESS comes into play, same setup, 20 systems, 20 cloak alts in grid with the ESS. Still you can't shut down farming at all but you can annoy the hell out of those farming guys. Either way, you are getting the cash from the ESS or you kill an Interceptor/Frig trying to access the ESS via Blops or you kill XXXX. It does not matter, the ESS is the cherry on top to harass someone else. The farming guys have 3 options. - Stop farming partially or at all for 2h = mission accomplished (and if they chicken heads as long as there is a cloak alt in system) - Trying to steal from the ESS after farming and may or may not get caught = mission accomplished - Forming a fleet to kill alll 20 ESS = mission accomplished Rinse and repeat that for 2 weeks and i bet Alliance B farming boys are pretty pissed and Alliance B has to deal with it one way or another. 1. If alliance A comes and drops one of these in alliance B's farming system nobody will rat while it is there. 2. If alliance A leaves a cloaky alt in system to babysit the ESS no one will undock to rat 3. If alliance A leaves an ESS in alliance B's system unattended alliance B ratters will blow it up 4. if alliance A parks a cloaky alt in system with no ESS deployed no one will undock to rat Please tell me again how the ESS has changed anything/added content/acted as a conflict driver beyond just parking a cloaky alt in a ratting system? You wont get the square peg into the round hole no matter how long and hard you try. You are 100% correct Adding a new module will not force players to adapt. If it's there and afk cloaker is there...some may shoot it. But it will be rare and far between . It is easier to cyno out to a new system than bother with afk cloakers. Leave no guard and it is guaranteed dead in a few minutes. I will log to sisi today to look at the recent changes. But I still don't see this as a good investment of time. Either from a player perspective ie: did this make EvE more fun or from a programming resource point ie: let's make stuff nobody asked for or wants
Regan Rotineque Rl'yeh Interstellar Ltd. Mildly Sober 209	Posted - 2014.01.24 18:10:00 - [5] - Quote I did log into sisi again to try the latest build of this. I'm sorry I still don't see how this adds to the game. This is going to be another item that is rarely used. Only those with high security and large roaming defence fleets will bother. ie: the rich get richer Not only that but the game mechanic itself has zero fun value. This does not make me want to play more, in fact if deployed would make me play less. It is not interactive....provides zero group play fun...does zero to address POS or SOV issues. If your going to spend time on these new modules CCP the I suggest you look at them from that point of view. For example create a scanning enhancement module...it would give a boost to core scanner probes to find those ultra rare sites or special ghost sites. Make these sites super hard with tons of rats that require group play. In addition it would boost combat scanners to find ships so people teamed up in these rare sites could be found quickly. As well as allowing combat probes to seek out cloaked ships. Make it easily destroyed and take some time to deploy and 'warm up. Make a couple versions with increasing cost to boost ratio. Easily destroyed and expensive. But put good loot in the rare sites. Risk....Reward. That is something new....that is something that could bring small groups/teams together. ESS is simply changes to an existing mechanic that nobody asked for. I won't say ratting is fun...but it does help all sizes of corps and alliances afford the ships and resources to do the pvp fun things that we love. Even with the recent changes to ESS ... It is better than it was but still is no fun...changes nothing and probably adds to your code maintenance issues. On this I still vote no.

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